Hey Fink, don't over think it. The majority of people have no fixed opinion based on such reasoning. Just look at how JW's are portrayed in popular culture. They are portrayed as kooks, rubes and zealots. No one cares about the money anymore because they don't ask for any. Now the carts are full of free junk. Hell, they don't talk to anyone anymore either. In the movies they were once the butt of jokes as crazy people, remember this?
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Why do (did) the majority of the general population see the JWS is a decisive fraud ?
by Finkelstein inthe jws /ibsa have been going door to door now for over 100 years in many lands and countries, with numerous pieces of supporting literature counting in the millions.. you would think after all of the publicizing that the jws faith would have grown leaps and bounds but to date the jws has only 8 million following adherents.. other christian based faiths have grown vastly more but never publicly proselytized their faith to the extent the jws have... my basic concise guess is that they see this organization as a bit of commercialized fraud, orchestrated by a religious publishing house namely the watchtower corporation, trying to get people to purchase and read the wts's literature.. and yes the wts did place a set price on its literature including yearly subscriptions.
was it just too obvious ?.
did the wts not think that many people who they called on were from even bigger and older established christian faiths but didn't say or preach what the wts was preaching in their apparent version of the gospel ?.
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Eldub that get stuck on a word or phrase!
by DwainBowman ineldub that get stuck on a word!.
over the years i have been around a few, that if a "big" or "unusual" word or phrase is used at the assembly or by a co/do, to stress a point.
then eldub "somebody" will use it at every meeting, if they can find a way to squeeze it into a part or commit.. most of them get over it after a few meetings.
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Wasanelder Once
"Brochures" became "bulshures."
"God will sustain" became "God will substain you, all through the pioneer meeting."
Morons.
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The Red Headed League
by dropoffyourkeylee ini am sitting here watching my pioneering wife get service time ‘writing letters’ to not-at-homes.
she has a long list of names and addressees where the jws in field service never got anyone home.
the letter is simply a word for word copy, handwritten on note paper, then sent in the usmail.
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Wasanelder Once
I had a cousin mention to me that someone wrote to her. She thought it was nice. They did the same thing last year she said. Then I informed her of how they keep time and that's why someone wrote to her. She responded, "It figures". She wasn't so impressed any longer. Snap!
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Give Love to Receive Love ???
by IMHO inplease help me understand this.
over the years i have seen and have heard of many who have changed congregation due to the 'lack of love' shown in their own.
you then hear many condemning such ones as 'having a problem' and 'taking their problems with them'.
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Wasanelder Once
Hello IMHO. Though I agree that there is a lack of expressed love in the congregation but I think you may be right, it may be you. Now don't get excited. I am saying that as a person who is seeking psychiatric help you must be exhibiting some social symptoms which people pick up on and then avoid. Its odd but even the nicest people avoid "sick" people. If you are withdrawn you will attract only the most compassionate people. These people only help so long before they become overwhelmed by their efforts for so many. They give up and you find their interest was more for self assurance that they are not depressed. Do not give up. There are people in between the judgemental and the pitying thespians. In life you are doing well to find one true friend, in or out of the KH. Sometimes its your mate if you're lucky. Just keep trying to be who you are, a person trying to lessen anxiety and confront the world with more confidence. All the best!
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First girlfriend-first Kiss
by TerryWalstrom infirst girlfriend first kiss.
the first girl i took notice of in any real sense of "notice" was a brunette named robbie.. .
i was in first grade, so i must have been six-years-old.. .
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Wasanelder Once
How did this script for the Andy Griffith show get on here?
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Did you become more antisocial after waking up?
by paradiseseeker ini've been shy my whole life, but during my teenage years and early 20s i managed to be more comfortable socializing and made many friends in different parts of my country (jws of course).
that was before i woke up, because i saw myself being a jw for the rest of my life and thus i made an effort to meet new jw friends.
however, after i woke up, i lost interest in meeting new people because knowing that when i leave they will be gone... feels like a total waste of time and energy.
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Wasanelder Once
I was never shy so, no.
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Did the Jews invent themselves and Israel in response to Hellenism
by Crazyguy inafter alexander the great died a greek family called the ptolemy’s took over egypt and the area we call israel today.
they instituted a new form of god worship for their empire the worship of the king and a new god named serapis.
serapis was a combination of several egyptian and greeks gods combined into one god.
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...and that's your lesson for today, return to kittens and puppy videos. Go Greeks!
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Out of the mouths of babes...
by pale.emperor inconversation with my 3yo this morning:.
me: hey, it's <friend in her nursery> birthday in a few days.
her: jehovah doesn't like birthdays.
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Conversation with my 30 year old child this morning:
Oh yeah, I don't have kids, thanks Watchtower for encouraging me to not have kids for the sake of the Kingdom.
Drop dead Gov. Body
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...and so it begins
by Phoebe ini've had an email from a sister who tells me that out in field service this morning a long standing route call has told them she won't be taking any more magazines and doesn't want them calling on her again because she has heard about the jws child abuse scandals and cover ups.
she was quite angry with them and said your elders say there is nothing wrong but there is and it will all come out.. this is the first time anyone i know of has been challenged on the doorstep and they were absolutely shocked and also angry.
angry that the organization is not preparing them for dealing with this and for not being honest with the brothers about what is going on ie: lawsuits etc.. just thought i'd share that with you..
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Wasanelder Once
Only "thinking" witnesses will respond with curiosity to such a confronting of their beloved organization. The rest will accept such responses as the interference of the Devil. ( when you are persecuted. A little warped don't you think? )
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Session #8: "Bullet in the Head"
by Brian J inso at the phd today with my wife and me, and in slowly getting to the heart of matters (like peeling an onion if you ask me), the dialogue in part went like this: .
phd: if it came down to it, would you take a bullet in the head instead of giving up membership in your organization?
wife: absolutely, i would die for my faith.
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Wasanelder Once
Its easy for a witness to answer a hypothetical question so affirmatively but I doubt that when faced with the reality they would follow through. Take heart.